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PO  2309
02-02-2010 04:27 PM ET (US)
I wanted to share a beautiful quote I recently came across. It's from Henry David Thoreau's Walden. Reaching such a point seems so far away. On the positive side, my personal journey has taken me closer to true voluntary simplicity and getting off the treadmill, both in small steps in the present moment, as well as towards the long-term goal..though it's still some years away before I can make a larger change. Still we can enjoy such passages as this from Walden:

"I did not read books the first summer; I hoed beans. Nay, I often did better than this. There were times when I could not afford to sacrifice the bloom of the present moment to any work, whether of the head or hands. I love a broad margin to my life. Sometimes, in a summer morning, having taken my accustomed bath, I sat in my sunny doorway from sunrise till noon, rapt in a revery, amidst the pines and hickories and sumachs, in undisturbed solitude and stillness, while the birds sing around or flitted noiseless through the house, until by the sun falling in at my west window, or the noise of some traveller's wagon on the distant highway, I was reminded of the lapse of time.

"I grew in those seasons like corn in the night, and they were far better than any work of the hands would have been. They were not time subtracted from my life, but so much over and above my usual allowance. I realized what the Orientals mean by contemplation and the forsaking of works. For the most part, I minded not how the hours went. The day advanced as if to light some work of mine; it was morning, and lo, now it is evening, and nothing memorable is accomplished. Instead of singing like the birds, I silently smiled at my incessant good fortune. As the sparrow had its trill, sitting on the hickory before my door, so had I my chuckle or suppressed warble which he might hear out of my nest.

"My days were not days of the week, bearing the stamp of any heathen deity, nor were they minced into hours and fretted by the ticking of a clock; for I lived like the Puri Indians, of whom it is said that 'for yesterday, today, and tomorrow they have only one word, and they express the variety of meaning by pointing backward for yesterday forward for tomorrow, and overhead for the passing day.' This was sheer idleness to my fellow-townsmen, no doubt; but if the birds and flowers had tried me by their standard, I should not have been found wanting. A man must find his occasions in himself, it is true. The natural day is very calm, and will hardly reprove his indolence."

What a wonderful quote. I hope you enjoyed that as much as I did. "The natural day", is indeed "very calm," what a concept.
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PO  2308
01-10-2010 10:50 PM ET (US)
Sound familiar? When semi-mainstream groups like Worldwatch are now sounding even more than ever before like Kevin and Donna, I choose to see that as a good sign:

The end of consumerism: Our way of life is 'not viable'

New report says we must embrace a basic future to survive

"Ditch the dog; throw away (sorry, recycle) those takeaway menus; bin bottled water; get rid of that gas-guzzling car and forget flying to far-flung places. These are just some of the sacrifices we in the West will need to make if we are to survive climate change.

"The stark warning comes from the renowned Worldwatch Institute, a Washington-based organisation regarded as the world's pre-eminent environmental think tank.

" Its State of the World 2010 report published this week outlines a blueprint for changing our entire way of life. 'Preventing the collapse of human civilisation requires nothing less than a wholesale transformation of dominant cultural patterns. This transformation would reject consumerism... and establish in its place a new cultural framework centred on sustainability,' states the report.

" 'Habits that are firmly set – from where people live to what they eat – will all need to be altered and in many cases simplified or minimised... From Earth's perspective, the American or even the European way of life is simply not viable.'

"...And any actions taken by governments, or scientific advances to deal with climate change, are doomed to failure unless individuals get back to a basic way of life, concludes the report – which recommends things like borrowing books and toys from libraries instead of buying them, choosing public transport over the car, and growing food in community gardens. In addition, all products should be designed to last a lifetime and be completely recyclable.

"A seismic shift in thinking is needed, according to senior researcher Erik Assadourian, project director of the report: 'Making policy and technology changes while keeping cultures centred on consumerism and growth can only go so far. To thrive long into the future, human societies must shift their cultures so sustainability becomes the norm.' "
Donna  2307
12-15-2009 04:10 PM ET (US)
We have a new updated article posted on our EarthStar Primal Habitat website, entitled, "The EarthStar Project: 12 Years and Still Making It", dated December, 2009.

Green Blessings,
Donna and Kevin
EarthStar Primal Habitat
www.earthstar.newlibertyvillage.com
Donna  2306
12-02-2009 11:04 AM ET (US)
Hi All,
I just read a great book I thought some of you might enjoy. It's entitled "Cultural Creatives, 50 Million People Who Are Changing the World". The title intrigued me, so I requested it from our library. It's very inspiring and rings with hope...something we need to hear more about. There are a lot of articles on the Internet about this book if you want to check out the info.

May you all be well and peaceful and happy,
Donna
PO  2305
11-21-2009 10:33 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 11-21-2009 10:34 PM
Thank you for your lovely note JP, sharing your experiences, and your encouragement. Certainly your note specifically...and in general, being part of a community of people who share some goals, vision, and values -- all help increase how "content" one feels :-) I'll "report" back here over the coming 12 months and would enjoy hearing others reports too.
Blessings,
PO
JP  2304
11-21-2009 12:19 PM ET (US)
I'm so impressed by you PO. Simplicity is not one grand plan but 100 daily decisions and it isn't ever a "destination". Several years ago I began with one simple decision - turning off the television. At that point I probably didn't even know what "voluntary simplicity" was. I just knew I was fed up with the vapidity of popular culture and I made up my mind that I deserved much better. Each step you take will lead to others; and it's just a matter of walking along the path. I do not know where we get that self imposed pressure that we have to be perfect from day one. The more steps you take, the more mistakes you make; and the more you learn. I can truly say that I'm further along the path now than I was last year - and that's all any of us can ever hope for. Are you more content; wise, giving? If so; you haven't failed - you've succeeded beyond all measure.
Peace!
PO  2303
11-20-2009 11:22 PM ET (US)
Just ordered "Choosing Simplicity: Real People Finding Peace and Fulfillment in a Complex World " by Linda Breen Pierce...which features Donna and Kevin.

I had done some googling on either voluntary simplicity in general or specifically on Earthstar..and was taken to books.google.com which had an excerpt of the above book..I really enjoyed reading it..it reminded me also of something I had forgotten, the the first attempt by Kevin and Donna was not so successful...this made me respect them even more...

"Why more? I can see why you don't respect them any less, but why do you say you respect them even more?"

Because it reminded me or told me that they were more like me..that they were not born with carpentry skills etc..I know for sure I would fail my first time (or many times) trying to build a house on my own..I had thought,"wow, I'm happy for them but the lucky folks have such amazing skills they had always had" no I realize/am reminded that they really had to struggle for so many years and their first effort (before the BELL) to build house didn't work out..it makes their ultimate success even more inspiring...anyway, it inspired me to buy the book by Linda Breen Pierce..

When I get sad about how/when will I ever reach some kind of more balanced life...when I similarly ponder whether I really want to stay at my current job for the rest of my life or if not when should I consider or be ready to ponder a move, or ponder my current ill-health, I'll have that book at my bedside to soothe the soul and inspire me and help me keep putting one foot in front of the other ("the journey of 1000 miles starts with one step") Or so I hope...I may post/report here how it goes.

Wellwishes to all,
-PO
PO  2302
10-29-2009 10:52 PM ET (US)
Having just spent the better part of an hour on wikipedia, I would like to share some cultural observations I think Kevin and Donna and many on this board might be able to relate to.

There are the warnings about wikipedia which are valid, like don't trust it unless it comes with a footnote reference from a good solid source...And there are the positive like "you can still, often find good information on it"...but there's another thing wikipedia can do for you, I've discovered, besides helping with finding some references on this method, recipe, health issue, etc...namely in analyzing our culture...and looking into some ugly parts of it, without getting the 'ugly' all over you. I speak of...reading the detailed (often very detailed) plot summaries from horror films and other films which encapsulate a lot of what's messed up in our culture.

I've never had the stomach for, nor, for that matter, any interest in, watching 'gore' films...so haven't gone to them..but in the last few years I've read plot summaries from the first 5 or 6 or 7 installments of various horror series...I do this maybe once a year now...this time around, I just read the plot summaries from Saw parts I, II, and III and skimmed IV, V and VI... Obviously doing so lets you do one thing: let those of us who are squeamish, or who object on moral and other grounds, or both, learn much detail about the film...but as it turns out, you can learn much more..you can sort of take a view that's detailed on the one hand while "removed" enough from the gore so as not to have nearly the same emotional gut reaction,so you can really look at it with open eyes; you are protected, to a large extent,not just from the gross-out or from the de-sensitization, but also you don't lose the forest from the trees.

Initially I got lost in the trees: so much detail...but after reading a few plot summaries of the first few Saws (or last year, I think it was Friday the 13ths I read the detailed plot summaries of) you lose track of the details but "the forest" comes into view... for me at least, the underlying illness or illnesses of our culture we live in, is what came into view. On the one hand, one can analyze the sick nature of our culture, what we accept, what we're bombarded with (in less extreme form in other parts of the media,but still there in other parts)..on another level, one can think about corporate capitalism willing to do anything, create movies about anything, no matter how pathological, antisocial, harmful, sociopathic, etc, just to make a buck. On a third level, how instead of enjoying nature, company, music, art, philosophy (or doing good activism like organic agriculture, community groups, etc) we're herded to sit in the dark isolated from the dozens or hundreds of fellow humans sitting right next to us, as we stare at a screen. On a fourth level, even ignoring all the "Analysis" of the other levels, it gives me more compassion and sympathy to the 'typical' American as I realize and sense more about what they are exposed to..things readers of this group are probably, on average, exposed to much less, and much less often.

I was going to try to list some parts of the "forest" that's easy to lose sight of among all the trees of all the twists and turns of the plot, things like, "don't trust other people because anyone, anywhere, could turn on you..not only turn on you,but kill you, not only kill you, but torture or mutilate you..." and "there's no escaping the competing against others for who will survive" (the idea of cooperation is there, but only in small marginal ways) and "use violence to solve (or violence with clever cunning deception etc) and there are others that come to mind but maybe hear what others say before trying to make my list longer or more complete...I do know that if we want real democracy and change in this world though, we have to work together and have solidarity, empathy, but the culture encourages "don't trust the other person" and "each man (or each woman) for themselves!" and the horror movies are, for the most part, no exception...

A lot of depressing thoughts but at least for me the positives are identifying more clearly, what it is that needs changing in our culture..that and the positive feeling (I was not joking) of empathy and even feeling sorry for the 'typical American' who gets exposed to this kind of thing (or other versions that are less extreme, but still bad enough, in the violent TV programs) much more often than some of us, and I can only imagine how much more stress it adds to their life...as if economic uncertainty, downsizing, deceptive advertising and "gotcha!" clauses in your health insurance, in your purchased goods and services, in so much else, aren't enough stress, this kind of cultural dimension in so much on TV and films adds yet more stress to the mix...not a good thing if we want to encourage more fellow Americans and other world citizens (who are also our brothers and sisters even if citizens of other countries) to join us in making the world a better place..

Maybe I'm over-sensitive not having owned a TV for almost all of my adult life..but I know I've heard others more 'mainstream' than me express dismay at these kinds of parts of our films and TV and culture...Your thoughts Kevin and Donna? Others?
Kevin  2301
09-11-2009 02:34 PM ET (US)
http://www.willthomasonline.net/willthomas...ell_Phones_FAQ.html

I've been holding out on getting a cell phone for so long. But you get tired of people telling you that your being paranoid about the microwave radiation, or that you are stubborn or behind the times, that is until... you finally get to see some real scientific evidence about how incredibly dangerous and sinister this technology is. I've heard people express the same thing over and over during the last 10 years, that the world doesn't feel right, that people seem like zombies, that more and more people are uptight, depressed, stressed... If an adult wants to continue to use a cell phone because it is convienent, that's their choice, but please, don't let children or teens have them....
Silver  2300
07-29-2009 11:19 PM ET (US)
Yes, thanks for the link re the cave dweller. I like that guy - he's got a lot of good ideas. Plus he's living in a drop dead gorgeous place in this country.
happystuff  2299
07-29-2009 07:44 AM ET (US)
Thanks for the links! Loved the article about the cave dweller. Great reminder for me.
a  2298
07-23-2009 07:53 PM ET (US)
KandD, I look forward to seeing it when I go to the store; thanks for the heads up. Thanks for the reminder Silver, the trailer looks intriguing.

COULD YOU SURVIVE WITHOUT MONEY?
MEET THE GUY WHO DOES (this guy lives in a cave; oh, and another cool article/video: look up 'moleman' who made his home in the ground)
http://men.style.com/details/features/landing?id=content_9817

The Food Inc. made me think of a clip I saw the other day about the 'bionic burger' (McDonalds burgers that haven't decayed even though they're 10 years old, and they list a long list of all the toxic chemical residues that are allowed in the burgers)(all started when a guy supposedly forgot about a burger he left in his jacket pocket which he found a year later and it looked the same)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYyDXH1amic
carla  2297
07-21-2009 01:50 PM ET (US)
Kevin and Donna,

Congrats on the Mother Earth Article!! May there be many more!!!
Silver  2296
07-21-2009 01:22 PM ET (US)
Has anyone watched the new movie, "Food, Inc"? I haven't seen it yet, however my son who is an executive in foodservice, has seen it and it's got him thinking, thinking, thinking......

This would make an interesting topic for discussion.
Kevin  2295
07-20-2009 02:09 PM ET (US)
Hi all,
Be sure to check out the latest Mother Earth News (Aug/Sept 2009). There is an article about our wood-fired clay oven and a nice photo.
Kevin & Donna
a  2294
06-07-2009 11:06 PM ET (US)
Just wanted to post a couple articles I found shocking, for awareness:

For the first link, I actually did the experiment with Total cereal, and found metal filings in it!!! "Metal Filings In Your Freaking Cereal" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ahlawrQHeA

Second, a video interview by Amy Goodman : "MERCURY Found in Thousands of Foods & Soda's Containing High Fructose Corn Syrup!" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGb6F-ZOUIc

Probably many of you have cut out HF Corn Syrup and really processed cereals like Total long ago from your consumption, but wanted to let you know, and for your friends/family/etc.
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